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and broadening opportunity for the middle class is shrinking our deficits in a balanced and responsible way. and for nearly two years now, i've been fighting for such a plan -- one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade, which would stabilize our debt and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research -- all the things that help us grow. now, step by step, we've made progress towards that goal. over the past two years, i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago, i signed into law more than $600 billion in new revenue by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that we'll save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years -- not cou
back on the table. congresswoman january schawowsky and the deficit reduction act. the bill would offer the choice of the publically run health insurance plan. and get this, it would save a hundred billion dollars over the next ten years. this bill is a win for everybody. it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion 234 in . >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love. t
to get our debt, the gdp, our deficit to gdp, down around 3%, which is the basis of which all economists left, right, center, agree, are the areas which we really can begin to grow as a country. and also my grandfather used to say, with the grace of god and good will of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling, that we may very well be able to meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over ten years, and in the long-term deficit and put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today because, as important as they all are, today we have a more urgent and immediate call, and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics very well so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i might add, oui an incredible debt of gratitude to many of you at the head table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have absolutely unanimity in this ballroom, nor do we in anyway ballroom, but we all know, everyone
set our country on a path that will allow us to get our debt to g.d.p., our deficit to g.d.p. down around 3%, which is the basis of all economists left, right and septemberer all agree on the areas we can begin to grow as a country. and as my grandfather used to say with grace of god and goodwill of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have you nan hit in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do some
and debt payments from lower deficits, as a spending cut. that's a dubious claim. number three, obama is counting a nearly 1 trillion dollar savings from more money than nobody expected to be spent anyway, now that the war in iraq is over and the afghanistan war is winding down. so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another
checks, balanced deficit reduction, huge majority, even in the republican party. the barrier to progress here in many respects, whether it is deficits, measures to help economy, immigration, gun safety legislation, there's huge support amongst all independents, democrats and republicans throughout the country. the barrier is there's factions here in congress, republicans in congress out of the mainstream. we need to bring the american people to-to-these debates. >> do you need to bring the american people into these debate buys suggesting evil motivation by your opponents? i think that's what -- you know, it's hard to see a president calling you for unity when he is suggesting that people who disagree with him don't disagree with him on policy but because they care more about the nra or they don't care, in the case of the debt ceiling, whether the country falls into recession again? is that the way to go about it? >> the debt ceiling it is truth. think about this, can dirk the first time in our country. >> reminding people president himself, when he was in the senate, voted against the d
s. >> while i'm willing to find middle ground to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate. not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect or ransom in exchange for not crashing the america economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> you know, it looks like republicans are up against another wall. but they're not going to be able to get -- they're not going to be able to get, quite frankly, some things they really want, if they're serious, are important. spending issues. but this is -- he's got them again. >> here's the problem with the republican party being owned by extremists on issues not related to the debt. let me tell you something, the president of the united states, it's laughable that he would talk about republicans not being res
in nearly the past three years, and the whole fiasco added to the deficit. host: after the news conference yesterday, house speaker john boehner responded with this statement -- " what are your thoughts on this? if the debt ceiling negotiable. some quick comments -- remember, you can post your comments on twitter. the first phone call is from maryland, a democratic caller, jill. caller: i don't believe the debt ceiling is negotiable. it is kind of ridiculous that the money is already owed, so why are we not going to pay what is owed to other people? if people have made investments, the bills have to be paid. i find it ridiculous that people in congress don't want to pay what is already owed. it does not make sense. host: here is the wall street journal this morning. caller: well, if you're asking me if that's true, i think there definitely needs to be somewhat of a compromise as far as spending cuts, but that is not an easy issue, because spending cuts mean job losses. it's not an easy thing to say a president will say we will stop paying the bills too. so there has to be compromised rehab
. this would give the right signals on energy sources and use. it could raise money to reduce the deficit, restore our infrastructure, speed and finance conservation. there are a number of other commonsense steps that would make progress on carbon pollution and energy conservation goals more significant. the epa should stop dragging its feet permitting old coal plants to continue to spew forth toxic waste, harming the environment and the health of our citizens. it is past time the clean air act reinforced. make sure there are proper safeguards for the cracking technology. make sure this reservoir of inexpensive gas does not undercut the addition of renewables to our energy portfolio. solar, wind, geothermal. dership on these technologies for a balanced energy portfolio and ultimately to reduce our carbon footprint. at each step, we should be looking to enhance energy conservation, because the cheapest kilowatt hour is one that you don't have to generate. we should have a 10-year glide path in support of renewable energy. the wind energy industry has already signaled its reaccept tift just
holds a hearing on debt and deficit reduction. examining the history of the debt limit, how past congresses have dealt with the him and whether the constitution provides options to the executive branch when the debt limit is reached. the house is expected to vote wednesday on increasing the nation's current debt limit of nearly $16.5 trillion. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. [applause] >> next, a discussion about gun violence and gun control measures. chicago mayor rahm emanuel was joined by ohio representative stephen latourette at an event hosted by the university of chicago's institute of politics. former nbc nightly news anchor tom brokaw moderated the discussion. it's about an hour and 15 minutes. >> thank you all very much for being here. i've been in this business for a long time, a half a century, and there are occasions in american life when one issue kind of galvanizes the country. and it seems to me that as we begin this year that guns, violence and can their place in american live
the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. (cheers and applause) >> pelley: we people, the first three words of the pre-amble of the constitution, the president repeated it again and again throughout the speech, a speech about national unity and unity of person. norah o'donnell and john dickerson are down there on the national mall. they've been watching these events unfold all day. john, the president has quite a task ahead of im. how does he proceed politically? >> well, he proceeds the next big moment is the state of the union and that's where he will get even more detailed. as bob mentioned, this did have a state of the union like feel to it as he ticked off those agenda items. but he'll get more specific about agenda items, he'll put pressure on congress and the big thing, though, is while we think about his agenda for the future, he's still dealing with the business of the past an
, if there is new changes in the next couple of decades, deficits will rise, the debt to gdp ratios will rise and our debt will become unsustainable. an important objective for policy is to bring the federal budget under control over the next few decades. as you know, we're still in a relatively fragile recovery and we want to avoid taking fiscal actions that will push the economy back into recession. that was one of the risks that the fiscal cliff pose. tax increases and spending cuts to that size, the cbo and others estimated that unemployment would rise and we very well might go back into a recession. so the challenge is to achieve long run sustainability without unduly hampering the recovery which we have. the deal that was struck, together with the previous work in 2011 that involved some spending cuts made some progress in both of these goals. on longer and sustainability, over the next decade or so, we have seen some movement toward stability in terms of the debt to gdp ratio. more work can be done, for sure. and then, on the short run, the fiscal cliff deal on new year's eliminated a
on the right foot. rebounding from a 17 to zero deficit to beat the atlanta falcons 28 to 24 in the n-f-c championship game yesterday. this will be the first super bowl appearance for the niners since 1995. >> it was a great ending. fans are excited that the team has made it this far. >> no words, fantastic, amazing. 18 years! >> the game was amazing. we had a victory, coming back from 80 amazing, back. i think that i was just eight. the superbowl game will be february two weeks. the niners will also be trying to join the pittsburgh steelers as the only teams with *six super bowl championships. and 49er fans from all over the nation.including the bay.descended on atlanta for sunday's game against the falcons. there was no shortage of niner's spirit at the georgia dome.with fans in full team gear packing the area outside of the stadium. many say they arrived early.hours before the game was scheduled to begin to get the party started. against the falcons was well deserved and not at all surprising. (cheers & applause) >> it was a beautiful game, it was a beautiful game. they deserve ev
make the choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its futur future. >> the commits we make with medicare and social security, these things do not sap our nation, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> wow, look at the crowd. this is a full bar the day after all the natural balls. i'm not sure what's going on here. that was president obama yesterday using his second natural address to preview his aggressive agenda with a focus on immigration reform, gay rights and climate control. organizers estimate as many as 1 million people filled the national mall. as the commander in chief exited the stage, he paused to savor the moment. the tradition of natural balls continued into the night. they attended 10 natural balls last night that went quite late and the first lady holding just two, the lowest since the eisenhower admi
the deficit will get smaller. >> when it comes to the deficit in spending 83 percent were told they believe government spending is out of control that's up from 78 percent back in february 2010 and the next economic debate is whether to raise that debt ceiling. 69 percent of you said it should only be raised after major cuts are made where 23 percent say it would be reckless not to. it is coming up. >>> powerful wind gusts tearing through the midwest knocking down this frtree and causing ito fall into the house in ohio. luckily the people inside the home were in the basement so they were not injured. >>> with the stong winds comes a a -- strong winds comes a bitter cold snap. for more let's go to maria molina. >> we are not looking at cold temperatures across the areas of the midwest but also in the oifrt ea northeast. we didn't get this cold in places like the northeast. take a look at portions of the midwest. 6 below zero the current temperature in minneapolis. that is not the windchill. it feels even colder and some places will be looking at windchill temperatures more than 20 degrees be
, as we mentioned earlier, getting the deficit on a sustainable path, trying to accomplish some of his investment agenda. obviously guns are going to be a part of the agenda. right now the main thing is to kind of stick at that visionary level. >> chuck, the president had a pretty good day for his first term on friday before it even started when republicans said they would break that principle of not raising the debt limit unless they had dollar for dollar spending cuts. tell me what you think that means for the resolution of the debt limit fight, which republicans are going to put that proposal on the floor on wednesday, and the president's prospect for resolving what has looked like an excruciating fight. >> it will certainly give us a nice market backdrop which is a nice thing to start off the administration's second term. i guess add 60% gain in the dow the first three years and 10% in the second -- in the last year, but i think that really what that means is that we have a good start, but it's all designed on the republican side to try to compel the democrats to come forward with
and dignity. we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit area but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [cheers] [applause] we remember the lessons of our past. twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability have nowhere to turn. we do not believe that in this country that freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, they may face a job loss or sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things strengthen us. [cheers] [applause] they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. [cheers] [applause] we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves, but to all prosperity we will respond to the
approach to cutting the deficit and huge fiction which in a plan will cut $4 trilin in the next decade, it will do no such thing. he is basing his argument on a falsehood which is what he's done is lie, distort. and what this showed us is that obama in the second term is going to be worse than obama in the first term. what we saw in one hour was the worst of our president on display. and republicans, they need to understand all of this dealing with obama. a man reckless, ruthless, and any president they will ever encounter. my next guess says he has a plan that will bolster the republicans plan. ohio senator is with us, how are you? >> great. >> sean: first, what do you make obama? only 2006 vote against the debt ceiling. now? >> he said would it be unpatriotic to vote to. >> sean: that is another thing. very that clip. do you want to see it? >> sure, it will be fun. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is the way bush has done it over eight years is to take out a credit card from bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for
in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction, to add muscle to the efforts to bring democrats to the table, they would include a provision in the debt ceiling legislation saying that lawmakers will not be paid if they do not pass a budget blueprint. was it right to step back from challenging the president over raising the debt ceiling? >> well, i think the house proposal is a step in the right direction. no doubt the senate hasn't done it's job. it's been nearly four years since it's passed a budget. but it doesn't go nearly far enough. we have a crisis. i just got back last week from afghanistan. and i had multiple servicemen and women clasp me on the arm and say, please do something about the debt and deficit. we're bankrupting the country. that's what the american people are looking for. and to date, politicians have both parties have been unwilling to take even a tiny step in the right direction. we've got to fix the problem. >> the senate has to pass a budget. do you believe that? >> i do. >> why has it been four years since you've done that? >> well, l
to get the deficit down. we're going to do a budget this year and it will have revenues in it and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. martha: promise, promises right? they will do a budget this year. we haven't seen one in how long? stuart varney the anchor of "varney & company". how many years has it been now? >> i believe it is 3 1/2 years. we go through the tax debate. we thought we got higher taxes on the rich and it was over, not so. senator schumer and fellow democrats are proposing yet higher taxes on the rich, more taxes on oil and gas companies and taxes on profits that american corporations makeover seas. so that is three big areas where taxes are going to go up. all of this we are told is going to be in the new budget which the senate has to pass in about a three-month period. so, here they come, higher taxes. martha: yeah. i mean, stuart, as you point out the argument that is being waged now about really tax rerecall follow was something that conservatives offered the first time around as a good way to sort of change the system and bring in more revenue
. they rallied from a huge deficit to win the game 28-24 atlanta had a chance to score before the game's end but san francisco came up big on defense so now it's brother against brother in superbowl 47 and jim harbaugh's49ers against john harbaugh's ravens. >>> we are hours away from president obama taking the oath of office outside the capitol. we have more on the historic day. >> reporter: on the west line outside the u.s. capitol the stage is set. officially inauguration day in washington. and they are expecting a turnout of 800,000 people. the president obama took the oath of office on sunday. >> i barack hussein obama do solemnly swear. >> reporter: vice president joe biden did the same. >> congratulationses. >> thank you. >> reporter: the constitution man dates the commander in chief start his term on january 10th. but long-standing tradition when that day is a sunday, a public inauguration is held the next day. the president capped off day one of the two-day inauguration by attending a reception in washington where he addressed supporters. >> you understood it was not just about a can
, mentioning some of the issues he wants to tackle. gun control, deficit reduction. as you said, waiting on the big details until the state of the union address. neil: you mentioned finding common ground. we may have gotten a hint on that when republicans said they would look at eight debt ceiling it ascension back ago, probably, three months. what do you make of that? don: they would be blamed, roundly, thoroughly if the country went into some kind of default. the strategy, as you have been reporting, has been to try to take this issue off the table and then fight the battle over spending cuts when you have a sequestration cuts scheduled to start march 1. the current resolution running the government also running out into her three months from now. as well as, the debt ceiling having to be raised yet again. republicans hope this is when they will be able to get the leverage to push spending cuts and entitlement reform. neil: you know, peter, what we look at -- how does that decide? there is a protocol. sitting in and around that i see ron emanuel sitting close to president clinton, how
, and the president is saying things like not to worry about the deficit. that is really for the proletarian, the more pedestrian takers among master of the deficit, the sustainable that. this is abject non says that he is doing, and he is being hailed by the national liberal media as some sort of -- some sort of articulation. >> i am one of those who is in the center, a supporter of the bowls' simpson planned and i agree with your characterization the problem is, you are offering a countervailing you. the republicans, with all due respect, are not. there is not an alternative narrative, not pushing the president to negotiate, and he is not talking to anybody. lou: i love this comment. the president saying of the second amendment is not whether we believe in the second member not. you have to literally hear this to believe it. but. >> the issue here is not whether or not we believe in the second amendment. the issue is, are there sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown cannot walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children. i am confident there are
on the table. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an assault weapon ban. >> everybody is totally upset by it. >> what makes sense? what works? >> this is a moment to act. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child, we should take that step. >> the lecturer in chief returns to the east room of the white house today to explain something to congressional republicans that previous presidents have not had to explain to congress. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay fo
trillion of deficit reduction. lowered the deficit to 1.4% of gdp in 2022, stabilize the debt by 2015. it even further reduced discretionary spending. it builds on health reform savings and called for social security reform, and provided specific things to do to get social security solvent for the next 75 years here and also include fundamental tax reform that raise revenue. and raised quite a bit of revenue, 2.4 trillion of that 5.4 trillion would have been revenue, but revenue not required raising rates, but revenue that would come through reforming the tax code, reducing preferences, exclusions that are shot through the tax code, to actually be able to reduce rates and raise additional revenue. for anybody that wanted can you really do that, remember tax expenditures are running $1.2 trillion a year. we are spending more for the tax code than we are through all of the appropriate accounts of the federal government. this is what happens to the deficit in the share of gdp under the fiscal commission plan. you can see a dramatic improvement. the fiscal cliff plan, and what was just ad
to get our debt to g.d.p., our deficit to g.d.p. down around 3%, which is the basis of all economists left, right and center all agree on the areas we can begin to grow as a country. and as my grandfather used to say with grace of god and goodwill of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a
programs at a time when everyone in washington is talking about debt and deficits, he threw down the gauntlet and made clear, i won the election, i will stand for these following things. he did not go in great detail. he does that next month. he made clear he is coming out where he is and he will come out swinging and he thinks he will get a lot done. we will see. >>neil: before i leave, much was made that the president has not walked much so far, what do you make of that? compared to last inaugural. >>reporter: he will be making that town as you say at the treasury department in a block or so from where we are right now, at lafayette park. look, they are always careful about not having the president walk too far. based on the cheers he is getting close because people here, outside the white house, they have been waiting if hours, since early this morning, 7:00 or 8:00 a.m. lining up here, so you get the idea after 4:00 p.m. eastern time, folks are cold, folks are tired, they are very excited to see the newly inaugurated president, re-elected president coming out here. as i menti
of the labor force, a big number, and none of these things said deficits, generational debt, not mentioned. it's interesting, you had some people on the left comparing the speech to the gettysburg address. which i found somewhat amusing. and you know, the references to the messiah, jesus, i can't believe how caught up the media gets in these moments. it's actually comical, but i wanted to ask you for the speech itself, i felt it was a hodgepodge of written by people that want today come up with their ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country moment and when you write a speech like that isn't it likely to fail? >> well, you have to use your own words. but what they did cribbed a lot from abraham lincoln, i saw at least three speeches in there. the nation without liberty and equality, remain half free and half slave. and that's almost word for word from the house divided. gettysburg address, we have a republic, by the people, for the people. and lincoln's famous message to congress in 1862 before the emancipation proclamation he said as we think anew as our c
republicans have never been comfortable with social security and medicare. they use deficits and debt reduction as an excuse to chip away at it. but it is not about deficits and debt. it's about their discomfort with the programs themselves. >> and it's about dealing with the challenges right now. one of the most compelling parts of the speech as i sat there listening and watching is when he said with all of the arguments, we must act now. listen to this. >> progress does not compel us to settle centuries-long debates about the role of government for all time. but it does require us to act in our time. >> act in our time. and not just get in these long unending debates. martin luther king used to call it the paralysis of analysis. >> we may will be coming to the end of one. with medicare and social security and medicaid. what was so striking about the speech yesterday was that obama -- the lack of an olive branch to republicans that we've heard from him before. when you talk about the summer of 2011, he was talking openly about willing potentially to have a deal that included some mod
make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and reduce the size of our deficits. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [applause] we remember the lessons of our past, years spent in poverty, the parents of a child with a disability had nowhere to turn. we do not believe that freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, may face a job loss or a sudden illness, or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments that we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, they do not sapped our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take risks to make this country great. host: the top republican in the senate responded to the president's address saying that he congratulated the president on his inauguration and that he wished him well in his duty to lead the u.s. at home and a
deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> bill: so the question -- so why should the president entertain this notion that the debt ceiling which republicans voted for 19 times under george w. bush without a peep, you know, why should he entertain the notion that suddenly this is a matter of big negotiations? >> well, he's trying to say that he shouldn't but unfortunately the house republicans have the majority in congress. unfortunately for him, so when he says he doesn't want to debate it and negotiate over it, he is running up against the fact that people who have the power in the house do want to debate it and that can cause problems. he certainly is pushing this idea here to try to remove this from the realm of what he wants and the american people see as rational debate. he used a lot of words yesterday that were very strong to try to make people see this as what he called an absurd way of approaching this. he talked about this being like holding a gun to your head or ransom. this
house caprettto prioritize the government's bills. guest: we have had some deficit reduction. as the president laid out a couple days ago, we have had over $2 trillion. we had 1.5 trillion that came from previous actions. and then we added just a few days ago some further deficit reductions through some increased taxes on the very wealthy of this country. so we have already begun to undertake a deficit-reduction. to use that as a reason to use the debt ceiling as a weapon is really playing with fire. they say pay some bills and not pay others. we have never tried that before. host: is it feasible? guest: i don't think so. which bills? social security? veterans? people out fighting for this country? which bills you pay? we never tried that. i think the president put it so well. this is not a dead beat nation, really. i think common sense is likely to prevail within the republican ranks. i know firsthand, second-hand, but much of the leadership within the house republican caucus, some of them realize the potential consequences. host: if president obama won on the fiscal cliff d
, is look it would add to the deficit whether you were north of south, it doesn't matter. we have only paid for a small amount in terms of offsets for any of these storms. from 2003 to now, in 2003 we had a rule under different circumstances, we had to find some money or find the revenue to pay for it. >> stephanie: right. >> but this is an emergency. we are 80 days into this now. you know how many homes have been damaged and destroyed? i think it's like close to 350,000 homes. >> stephanie: yeah. >> the power outages in new jersey, two -- over 2.5 million no power. i mean i go down the whole list. >> stephanie: right. and it's winter back east encase encase -- in case people haven't noticed. it used to be we are just americans. but look at yesterday, look at yesterday, when there was a tragedy, we used to try to figure out how we come to the table. literally there are people accusing the president of being like saadam hussein, and using children as human shields. >> yeah, they will stop at nothing. we have more ideologues now in the congress than we had in the 112
the debt ceiling. this is the question we posed. is reduce the federal deficit a worthy goal? this is interesting you may recall white house press secretary made news by stating that deficit reduction is, quote not a worthy goal onto itself. 77% of voters disagree with them and that includes large majorities of republicans, independents and democrats. what is your take on this? >> again i don't want to be a downer here, the question is what urgency to do they place on that. we had an election two months ago where there were two candidates, one was more focused on cutting the deficit and reducing our long term debt and one didn't think it was a big concern. the one who didn't think it was a big concern won the election. yes, voters seem to say that is an issue they agree with, but when it came to election day two months ago that certainly wasn't one of the top issues they voted on because they voted for the candidate who wasn't embody go it. >> heather: through his actions, as well. that leads to this, how f or if it should be raised? should the debt limit be raised again, 23%
it was in '93 and we were talking about an omnibus spending bill. it was a deficit reduction bill but of course it was called the tax increase. and there were things in the bill that i liked and there were things in the bill i didn't like. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the phone, and he said what would it take? and i said a serious discussion about entitlements, further cuts, and i'll only be your last vote because there had only been two -- in the house as you know, a tie vote goes down. >> sure. >> so i said i'd only be your 218th vote and there had been two votes i knew like this in history. one for the impeachment of andrew johnson and
, the deficit, gun control, immigration. what should the president do first to show republicans he's not looking for revenge or looking to pick fights? >> i would say the budget. to make an honest attempt on both sides to try to reduce spending or reduce the growth in spending. that to me is the one place where there is enough on the table that both sides can make progress if they want to. you get into gun control, i basically support the president's program, but he's not going to get very much support at all among republicans for that. that's a good political point for him, but i don't see it going anywhere. as far as the illegal immigration or making it legal or whatever, reform, i would say there's an opportunity, people like marco rubio, for instance, and others, and also you have the chamber of commerce, you have some republican vested interest. i would say the budget and immigration are the two areas, spending and immigration. >> can he get through some simple things on gun control, if not a ban on assault weapons. that might be impossible with republican caucus, but universal background c
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